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rebcamuse
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| 02/05/2007 12:51 AM |
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Agreed, Jack. (Sorry, I couldn't get the cursor to go underneath the quote box). Personally, I didn't find the original opinion offensive. It was just that--an opinion. Opinions don't usually offend me...how they are acted upon might, however.
Rebecca
Posted By Jack on 01/26/2007 7:44 PM Posted By rebcamuse on 01/26/2007 9:57 AM
Rebecca responds: I'd venture that it is the lack of openess and tolerance of university administration, not academia as a whole. After all, the grad student who posted it is part of "academia."
While I am willing to concede not all people in academia are closed minded. There unfortunately far too many examples supression of the conservative point of view, under the guise of "We must not make people feel uncomfortable". The short hand is usually called "political correctness". Unfortunately, this supression does NOT end the offensive point of view, my concern is that the suppressed point of view will reappear in more noxious and dangerous forms. Think Neo-Nazi, KKK and other hate groups. While the original opinion was only offesive, the suppression allows these more dangerous groups to co-opt and pervert the point of view into something worse.
Jack
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Jack
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| 02/07/2007 5:06 AM |
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"Unfortunately, this supression does NOT end the offensive point of
view, my concern is that the suppressed point of view will reappear in
more noxious and dangerous forms. Think Neo-Nazi, KKK and other hate
groups. While the original opinion was only offesive, the suppression
allows these more dangerous groups to co-opt and pervert the point of
view into something worse."
Am I a Prophet? No just observant. Remember the rhetoric attempting to relate all opposition to Illegal immigration as xenophobic and unfit for public discussion? Once again most opposition is NOT against immigration, it is against to the violation US immigration law.
http://www.denverpost.com/search/ci_5164878
| | More activity for Klan, similar groups | | White supremacists are beginning to join forces and turning their focus toward stirring anti-immigration sentiment. | | By Erin Texeira , The Associated Press Denver Post | | Article Last Updated:02/06/2007 12:19:29 AM MST |
| New
York - Huge street protests made millions of immigrants more visible
and powerful last year, but they also seem to have revived a hateful
counterforce: white supremacists. Groups linked to the Ku Klux Klan, skinheads and
neo-Nazis grew significantly more active, holding rallies, distributing
leaflets and increasing their presence on the Internet - much of it
focused on stirring anti-immigrant sentiment... |
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subear
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| 02/07/2007 11:56 AM |
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| You're quoting yourself? |
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"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience. We are spiritual beings having a human experience." Pierre Teilhard de Chardin |
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subear
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| 02/07/2007 12:24 PM |
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RE: about mega-churches:
"One day a preacher said to a friend, 'We have just had the greatest revival our church has experienced in many years.'
'How many did you add to your church membership?'
'None. We lost five hundred.' " —Brennan Manning |
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"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience. We are spiritual beings having a human experience." Pierre Teilhard de Chardin |
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Jack
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| 02/07/2007 7:36 PM |
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Not exactly, I was recapitulating the relavent portion of my original post, in order to make the point of the new post more clear.
I am not an intellectual giant, just a small town boy from the backwaters of Lake Erie.
Jack
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Jack
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| 02/10/2007 8:45 PM |
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On A Light note.
For the "unempowered man", we offer this:
A Man's Prayer
"I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to, I guess"
Red Green
Mr. Green is also known for this quote:
"If the women don’t find you handsome, they should at least find you handy"
See you all at the Possum Lodge "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (When All Else Fails, Play Dead)
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subear
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| 02/12/2007 8:01 PM |
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| "The highest good is like water. Water gives life to the ten-thousand things and does not strive. It flows in places men reject and so is like the Tao." -- Lao Tzu |
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"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience. We are spiritual beings having a human experience." Pierre Teilhard de Chardin |
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Starlight
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| 02/16/2007 1:20 PM |
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Here's a great quote :)
"Not by hating hatred ceases
In this world of tooth and claw;
Love alone from hate releases --
This is the Eternal Law."
It's a poetic translation made by Francis Story of Buddha's saying from Dhammapada v. 5 :) |
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Starlight
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| 02/16/2007 1:24 PM |
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| "Internet Explorer gives your computer the access to the world, and gives the world the access to your computer" - a quote from the Polish Uncyclopedia article about Internet Explorer..... just thought I'd post a funny quote for a change ;) |
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Pam
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| 02/17/2007 12:26 AM |
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I have enjoyed reading your entries. I have been looking for some works on spirituality . You all have
certainly helped me in my quest. L'Engle is one of my favorites and I did not know of her philosophical
books. Thank-you all very much.
At the moment I can not think of a favorite quote, but will try to come up with something next time.
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rebcamuse
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| 02/18/2007 10:14 PM |
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Posted By Pam on 02/17/2007 12:26 AM
I have enjoyed reading your entries. I have been looking for some works on spirituality . You all have
certainly helped me in my quest. L'Engle is one of my favorites and I did not know of her philosophical
books. Thank-you all very much.
At the moment I can not think of a favorite quote, but will try to come up with something next time.
love Pam
I rarely think of quotes of the top of my head, LOL. I hope you will think of this as a repository for quotes as you come across them. :-) For example, I came here tonight to share this one:
Today I was listening to a podcast of a sermon given by Stephen Sterner (Interim Minister at Claremont United Church of Christ). I'm several weeks "behind" but I find that the best sermons are timeless and resonate no matter when you listen to them. At any rate, I'd like to offer a quote from that sermon:
The "now" of Jesus is not achieved by nodding assent to sermons that affirm your predjudices without challenging your assumptions or changing your life.
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Jack
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| 02/21/2007 5:17 AM |
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As our ancestors would say when quoting Jesus, "Thus sayeth the Lord..."
16 “And whenever you fast, do not look dismal, like the hypocrites, for they disfigure their faces so as to show others that they are fasting. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward. 17 But when you fast, put oil on your head and wash your face, 18 so that your fasting may be seen not by others but by your Father who is in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you." -- Matthew 6:16-18 NRSV
No matter what you give up for Lent, remember Easter and our Lord’s resurrection is why we sacrifice for Lent. Have a blessed Ash Wednesday.
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subear
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| 02/21/2007 12:10 PM |
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"When you pray for anyone you tend to modify your personal attitude toward him. " - Norman Vincent Peale
And, I will add, for ourselves.
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"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience. We are spiritual beings having a human experience." Pierre Teilhard de Chardin |
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Linda
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| 02/21/2007 9:54 PM |
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| "Prayer is not something to be worked at, not so much a spiritual discipline like running, but a 'friendship' with God." - Clement of Alexandria |
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subear
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| 02/23/2007 12:08 PM |
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Linda:
hmmmm! I like that one. (imagine a long sigh)
Here's one that came on a greeting card. The words were printed in a spiral, over a pair of hands holding another pair of hands.
"i have found the paradox that if i love until it hurts, then there is no hurt, only more love -Mother Teresa
Blessings,
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subear
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| 02/26/2007 12:05 PM |
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| "It is better to sit by the temple and beg for alms than do work you don't love. . . Work is Love made visible." -Khalil Gibran |
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"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience. We are spiritual beings having a human experience." Pierre Teilhard de Chardin |
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Linda
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| 02/26/2007 12:25 PM |
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| Gee, should I be writing my letter of resignation for this job I dislike? :-) |
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subear
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| 03/05/2007 12:21 PM |
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Poem by Mary Oliver, from her new book, Thirst:
I would be good--oh, I would be upright and good.
To what purpose? To be shining not
sinful, not wringing out of the hours
petulance, heaviness, ashes. To what purpose?
Hope of heaven? Not that. But to enter
the other kingdom: grace and imagination,
and the multiple sympathies: to be as a leaf, a rose,
a dolphin, a wave rising
slowly then briskly out of the darkness to touch
the limpid air, to be God's mind's
servant, loving with the body's sweet mouth-its kisses, its
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"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience. We are spiritual beings having a human experience." Pierre Teilhard de Chardin |
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Linda
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| 03/21/2007 11:42 PM |
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From Marva Dawn's book How Shall We Worship
"How different our daily lives would be if we perceived them not as an endless round of chores to accomplish, but as a continuing variety of opportunities to bring an offering to the Lord!"
OK, not the most profound or poetic quote out there, but still good food for thought for life. I'm one of the many task-oriented people in our society, governed by never-ending "to-do" lists. (I realized recently that I even fall into that with my prayer- whoops, can't say Amen yet- I forgot to pray for Aunt Bea.) It's easy to mentally divide the sacred from the secular (I'm just running errands- that doesn't involve God) when really every moment of our lives is sacred. |
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subear
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| 03/27/2007 3:36 PM |
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Here's a poem by David Whyte:
SELF-PORTRAIT
It doesn't interest me if there is one God
or many gods.
I want to know if you belong or feel
abandoned,
if you can know despair or see it in others.
I want to know
if you are prepared to live in the world
with its harsh need
to change you. If you can look back
with firm eye,
saying this is where I stand. I want to know
if you know
how to melt into that fierce heat of living,
falling toward
the center of your longing. I want to know
if you are willing
to live, day by day, with the consequence of love
and the bitter
unwanted passion of your sure defeat.
I have heard, in that fierce embrace, even
the gods speak of God.
~ David Whyte ~
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Starlight
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| 04/02/2007 1:44 PM |
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Here's a song which I really like :)
Amarantine by Enya
You know when you gave your love away
It opens your heart, everything is new
And you know time will always find a way
To let your heart believe it's true
You know love is everything you say
A whisper, a word, promises you give
You feel it in the heartbeat of the day
You know this is the way love is
Chorus
Amarantine
Amarantine
Amarantine
Love is always love
You know love may sometimes make you cry
So let the tears go, they will flow away
For you know love will always let you fly
How far a heart can fly away
Chorus
You know when love's shining in your eyes
It may be the stars fallen from above
And you know love is with you when you rise
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Jack
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| 04/07/2007 9:54 AM |
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C.S. Lewis on Jesus
You can shut him up for a fool, you can spit at him and kill him as a demon; or you can fall at his feet and call him Lord and God.
Happy Easter
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ProudDog
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| 04/07/2007 9:58 PM |
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| A quotable moment from Raines, the new NBC show:
Raines: How are you doing?
Charlie's widow: I'm cursing God less.
Raines: Well, don't stop completely. I'm sure it's a welcome change from all those people, uh, sucking up and asking for stuff.
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Jack
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| 04/25/2007 7:23 PM |
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No child, Muslim or normal, should have to endure touching a ham sandwich.”--Stephen Wessler, the Executive Director of the Center for Prevention of Hate Violence
How about Mr. Wessler's implication that Muslim children are somehow NOT normal? This quote is so monumentally stupid, it is in a class by itself.
It is likely the student who put the ham sandwich on the same table as Muslims from Somilia did it to provoke a reaction. They need to be corrected and disiplined, this quote undermines those efforts. |
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Pastorbogy
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| 04/26/2007 3:40 AM |
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Here's a little variation on one we all know, that I have post-it noted on my monitor:
God, grant me the serenity to accept the people I cannot change, the courage to change the one I can, and the wisdom to know...it's me. |
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