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WWJD
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08/09/2006 11:32 PM
"Doing without believing is empty of blessing. Believing without doing is empty of blessing."

Blessing is another one of those "church-speak" words that we need to lose, quickly.

That aside, I disagree.  If I'm hurting I don't care what the beliefs/motivations are of the person who is helping me.  And "Believing" without doing is hypocrisy. 

When you were in Seminary did you not learn the difference between orhtopraxy and orthodoxy?  Jesus is all about orthopraxy.  He couldn't have cared less about orthodoxy.  It is the corruption of Christianity by Greek thought that thinks that places belief as something that can exist without action. 

Matt 21:28-32 But what do you think? A man had two sons, and he came to the first, and said, ‘Son, go work today in my vineyard.’ He answered, ‘I will not,’ but afterward he changed his mind, and went. He came to the second, and said the same thing. He answered, ‘I go, sir,’ but he didn’t go. Which of the two did the will of his father?" They said to him, "The first." Jesus said to them, "Most assuredly I tell you that the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering into the Kingdom of God before you. For John came to you in the way of righteousness, and you didn’t believe him, but the tax collectors and the prostitutes believed him. When you saw it, you didn’t even repent afterward, that you might believe him.
WWJD
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08/09/2006 11:34 PM
[QUOTE]bmrathbun wrote

We ministers put our trousers on one leg at a time just like everybody else. We're not more wonderful than anybody else. We've spent some time studying and thinking and working toward a theological understanding of God, Jesus, people, life, creation, the Realm of God, and a whole lot of other things. We've been honing our particular gifts for service to God. Don't see our particular gifts as the only gifts. They're just the gifts and graces God gave us, and we have chosen to accept those gifts and to polish them (as our passage from Ephesians 4 talks about this week). (See Kirk's and my blogs in the Opening the Bible section.)

Other people have other gifts, and as ministers, we depend on those healers and teachers and engineers and organizers and merchants and farmers and... We're working together, each bringing our own gifts to the table. We all sit at the table together, and we all eat together in God's world.

What we're doing in the meantime is trying to get us all to that world!

Pastor Barbara, iguide for Opening the Bible

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On a more practical note when I went to seminary I had the choice of going for an MDiv or a MA.  I opted for the MA.  Why? Because it had far more courses in Biblical Studies than the MDiv.  I understand this is typical of seminaries. 
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