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Subject: Finding enough faith to return to the UCC

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04/13/2006 1:45 PM  

I grew up in a UCC church in Sandusky, Ohio. My father (and I by extension) were heavily involved in the church, and I was brought up through Sunday School, Confirmation Class and church camp to believe in the institution.

I was supposed to married in my parents' church, and the service was to be performed by the minister who had been there three to four years. Those plans were cut short when my parents called to tell me that he'd just been arrested for child molestation -- over a period of months, he had been molesting a youth from his congregation he was supposed to be counseling. He was later convicted and went to jail for it.

That's bad enough -- but he had been caught in the same kind of act at a prior UCC church, and the UCC had placed him in my parents' church, telling just one or two members of the congregation.

What's more, several years later, I was asked to speak to a group from a UCC church. The pastor emeritus felt the need to contribute to the discussion, and (to the embarrassment of others in the group) he bragged about the community's politically powerful and wealthy who had attended his church. What happened to his Christian humility along the way?

With events like these, I've not been able to place my faith back in the UCC, which is a shame. For years I've been looking for a church with the UCC's type of open-arms philosophy, because my own daughter needs religious education. But how can I put my faith in an institution whose leaders have shown such questionable judgement? I don't think simple forgiveness can work for me -- not when you consider how vulnerable people are when they put their faith in their spiritual leaders.

I would welcome a discussion on how to resolve this conflict. Can anyone help?

innervisions
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04/15/2006 12:26 AM
Wow, this is terrible. I don't doubt a single thing you said.

Unfortunately, people aren't perfect. Some people commit terrible acts and some think its fine to cover those acts up. (We see this clearly in the Catholic church scandal.)

However, I would encourage you not to lose your faith in the entire denomination because of the actions of few. I'm not saying you have to be in a UCC church. (I'm not one of those people who thinks one denomination is so much better than another.) The United Methodist Church is also very welcoming, so you might look there if you're not comfortable with UCC churches.

What really matters is that you're getting a word from God and wherever you can get that is the place you should be.
papastor
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04/22/2006 12:10 PM

Dear Friend,

like those who question faith and seek to live out that faith in a way that is reflective of Jesus' teachings, the UCC is also constantly evolving.  Years ago, it was the unwritten and unspoken practice of 'all' churches to pass on the bad seeds to another community.  As long as "I don't have to deal with it anymore, it isn't my problem."  but we have come to find out, that passing the buck only makes the buck happy and not those who have to live with the buck. 

over the years, the ucc among all denominations (I hope), has learned from our mistakes and began to develop and now fully impliments the "Fitness for Ministry Review" which in the instance of sexual misconduct (on any level), financial misconduct (on any level) and an assortment of other offenses that do not befit a pastor ministering on and in behalf of the United Church of Christ are handled in a confidential and systematic manner to determine whether a pastor who has 'misconducted' should be removed from being able to be a pastor of a united church of christ church.

a long sentence, but one filled with much information!!!  sexual misconduct, unfortunately, is the church's dirty little secret.  wherever there are vulnerable people (re: children!) and pastors who need to feel that they have power over another, or the need to satisfy another human need not being met otherwise, there will be sexual misconduct. 

for us pastors, the best thing are support groups among our peers, pastoral counselors who are trained to help us deal with our big stuff, so we can deal with your big stuff, and spiritual directors so we can help develop our understanding of where God is in our life.  all this is our safety net to help us keep you safe. 

as a teen, i heard that one of my friend's pastor father, had misconducted with a teen in his congregation.  i heard he was removed... but i lost touch with my friend.  I pray for the families of the misconducted pastors... i pray for their victims..,. and i pray for them that they will find the peace they have been looking for.

please, don't judge all pastors or all ucc churches based on one or two.  we are all human and churches are made up of very falible humans.  God helping us, we try to accept each other - wherever we are on life's journey and welcome all here too.  papastor

RuralUCC
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05/13/2006 12:18 AM
Hello anonymous.  My thoughts on this remind me of the epistle of Jude--a warning that there are false teachers amoung us who can hurt and divide the church.  There are some fakes in every denomination.  I feel that you had the unfortunate experience of dealing with these people.  I have been blessed to have had wonderful relationships with my past pastors and my current one.  We cannot judge a denomination's credibitily, in my opinion, by the actions of one or two people.  I urge you to return to the UCC and give your courageous witness to the Gospel and help make us an even better place.  There are plenty of good people here already, please join us...we need you!  If you choose not to come back, that's okay too.  There are many denominations to choose from such as our close partners, the Disciples of Christ, among others.  Thank you for sharing your story and I pray that you will find a wonderful congregation somewhere.   I recommend that you just shop around for a new church.  Grace and Peace
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